2001 ford explorer gas tank

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You may be making perfectly valid statements about composition and grammer, but that was not the point.  If someone said to me" My house be on fire!", as negatively I feel about ebonics, should I correct their language or help put the fire out?  Getting into a rant about language on a quasi-technical forum like the  Explorer site seem to be a much more emotional response on your part than  my reply, which advised you to focus on the subject at hand rather than going off the road, as it were. I can't decide whether your little melt down was because you have had little contact with people who don't do well with the language, or too much contact with non-native English speakers. I have to tell you that my first reaction to your first email entry did not evoke the word "prig".  It was about 3 levels worse than that. Have a great weekend

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> For syclone and Big Bill: > If either of you want to have a rational discussion about > the importance of being able to write clearly, and/or the > nature of ad hominem attacks, I'd be happy to continue to > exchange views either off-line, or in a more appropriate > newsgroup - perhaps one dealing with English composition > skills (if there is one) or one devoted to argumentation > (again, if there is one.) > I don't understand the obvious negative emotional response > my original post prompted from you.

Some people just need something to gripe about. Do you see the irony? There are few posters that I won't respond to, but the one's with run-on sentences with no punctuation and no capitalization just seem lazy to me. If they can't be bothered, neither can I. There are way more messages on the groups that I subscribe to, than I could ever read. Why waste time on the one's that I have to decipher, because of a lazy poster? That's just me. Poeple who disagree are of no consequence. H

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>For syclone and Big Bill: >If either of you want to have a rational discussion about >the importance of being able to write clearly, and/or the >nature of ad hominem attacks, I'd be happy to continue to >exchange views either off-line, or in a more appropriate >newsgroup - perhaps one dealing with English composition >skills (if there is one) or one devoted to argumentation >(again, if there is one.) >I don't understand the obvious negative emotional response >my original post prompted from you.  An echo from another >time or another place perhaps?

The negative response by me was because you were complaining about negative responses, when you made the first one in this thread. You can discuss this all you want, but facts are facts. -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a"

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- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -> A fiction, as it were. Politeness. Something you seem to > be unfamiliar > with. > It is a fine line between politeness, fantasy, political > correctness, and linguistic imprecision. > Illegal alien ==> undocumented worker. > Prostitute ==> generic sex street vendor. > Janitor ==> sanitary engineer. > Cool ==> kewl > >As for "lossen up a bit," that is what our public school > >system, and much of higher education, has been doing with > >academic standards for more than a generation.  It is > called > >dumbing down, and it is not all caused by affirmative > action > >pressures to meet quotas. > How did you devine the OP is a product of our public > schools? > Do you mean divine?  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt > and assume merely a typo.  :-) > I did not assume the OP is a product of our public school, > nor did I make such a statement.  But, if I had to guess, > I'd estimate that the probability is .95 or higher that the > OP did not graduate from a private school in an English > speaking country. > See how that works? > No.  What is your point? > There are a few possibilities. IAC. Plugged fuel filter. > Too much crap > in the tank. > Among others. > Again, I commend you for your patience, and ability to > understand what the OP was trying to communicate.  I choose, > regularly, not to devote much energy trying to understand > poorly written material.  Although retired now, I spent many > years reading the essays of public school graduates - many > of whom had all As and Bs in English yet could not > conjugate, punctuate, or spell beyond a 4th grade level. > I truly believe, and you may differ of course, that we do a > disservice to students and others by rewarding them for > shoddy work, by not pointing out their errors and thus > giving them avenues of growth and improvement, and by > pretending that all output is equally valued by society.

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Ladies and gentlemen, what we have here is an honest to goodness " prig".  Just leave him/her alone in his/her feelings of righteousness. They never, ever get the point.

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As the thread shifts from rational discussion of ideas to ad hominem attacks I bow out, giving you and others the opportunity to have the last word.

- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -> Ladies and gentlemen, what we have here is an honest to goodness " > prig".  Just leave him/her alone in his/her feelings of righteousness. > They never, ever get the point.

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AMEN!

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>As the thread shifts from rational discussion of ideas to ad >hominem attacks I bow out, giving you and others the >opportunity to have the last word.

Let's see who threw the first ad hominem attack. Here it is: "Yes, you sure do.  If English is not your first language, I suggest an ESL (English as a Second Language) class at a local high school or junior college.  If that is not the case, then you might seek a remedial English class at a similar institution.  Suggested topics for early attention include capitalization, punctuation, sentence structure, and proof-reading. That, of course, won't make your car run any better, but it might enable you to seek assistance in a more effective manner." Who wrote that? Surprise! It was you. > Ladies and gentlemen, what we have here is an honest to >goodness " > prig".  Just leave him/her alone in his/her feelings of >righteousness. > They never, ever get the point.

-- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a"

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WELL SAID!

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For syclone and Big Bill: If either of you want to have a rational discussion about the importance of being able to write clearly, and/or the nature of ad hominem attacks, I'd be happy to continue to exchange views either off-line, or in a more appropriate newsgroup - perhaps one dealing with English composition skills (if there is one) or one devoted to argumentation (again, if there is one.) I don't understand the obvious negative emotional response my original post prompted from you.  An echo from another time or another place perhaps? For my "real" email address, change dubya to w. -- CWLee A woman, without her man, is nothing. A woman: without her, man is nothing. Punctuation DOES make a difference!

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i need help. iwas running my car yesterday and it turned off, ever since then every time i turn it on i have to hit the gas pedal several times and it goes on after 3 min turns off again some people have told me is the gas tank does someone can help me and how much it would be to solve this problem

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> i need help.

Yes, you sure do.  If English is not your first language, I suggest an ESL (English as a Second Language) class at a local high school or junior college.  If that is not the case, then you might seek a remedial English class at a similar institution.  Suggested topics for early attention include capitalization, punctuation, sentence structure, and proof-reading. That, of course, won't make your car run any better, but it might enable you to seek assistance in a more effective manner. iwas running my car yesterday and it turned off, ever since - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -> then every time i turn it on i have to hit the gas pedal several times and > it goes on after 3 min turns off again some people have told me is the gas > tank does someone can help me and how much it would be to solve this > problem

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I find it amusing that some people think that putting down others who may not be as proficient in English as they are is wonderful way to communicate.  The gentleman's grammar and sentence structure were not perfect, but I was able to understand the difficulty he was having with his vehicle. I would suggest that MS. or Mr. CWLee loosen up a bit, sit back and have a nice glass of wine.  If that doesn't work, there is an appropriate web site to meet others that share your feelings http;//www.imabigot.net

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> The gentleman's ...

How did you possibly conclude the writer was a gentleman? Or even male? > I was able to understand the difficulty he was having > with his vehicle.

You are to be commended for your patience and abililty with such attempts to communicate in writing.  For the benefit of the OP, I hope his bosses are always so accepting of his writing skills. > I would suggest that MS. or Mr. CWLee loosen up a bit, sit back and > have a nice glass of wine.

A glass of wine sounds good. As for "lossen up a bit," that is what our public school system, and much of higher education, has been doing with academic standards for more than a generation.  It is called dumbing down, and it is not all caused by affirmative action pressures to meet quotas. Back on topic, what is the problem with the OP's car, and how can it be repaired?  I did not find your diagnosis or recommendations.

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>> The gentleman's ... >How did you possibly conclude the writer was a gentleman? >Or even male?

A fiction, as it were. Politeness. Something you seem to be unfamiliar with. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -> I was able to understand the difficulty he was having > with his vehicle. >You are to be commended for your patience and abililty with >such attempts to communicate in writing.  For the benefit of >the OP, I hope his bosses are always so accepting of his >writing skills. > I would suggest that MS. or Mr. CWLee loosen up a bit, sit >back and > have a nice glass of wine. >A glass of wine sounds good. >As for "lossen up a bit," that is what our public school >system, and much of higher education, has been doing with >academic standards for more than a generation.  It is called >dumbing down, and it is not all caused by affirmative action >pressures to meet quotas.

How did you devine the OP is a product of our public schools? See how that works? >Back on topic, what is the problem with the OP's car, and >how can it be repaired?  I did not find your diagnosis or >recommendations.

There are a few possibilities. IAC. Plugged fuel filter. Too much crap in the tank. Among others. I didn't see any from you, either. -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a"

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> A fiction, as it were. Politeness. Something you seem to be unfamiliar > with.

It is a fine line between politeness, fantasy, political correctness, and linguistic imprecision. Illegal alien ==> undocumented worker. Prostitute ==> generic sex street vendor. Janitor ==> sanitary engineer. Cool ==> kewl >As for "lossen up a bit," that is what our public school >system, and much of higher education, has been doing with >academic standards for more than a generation.  It is called >dumbing down, and it is not all caused by affirmative action >pressures to meet quotas. > How did you devine the OP is a product of our public

schools? Do you mean divine?  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume merely a typo.  :-) I did not assume the OP is a product of our public school, nor did I make such a statement.  But, if I had to guess, I'd estimate that the probability is .95 or higher that the OP did not graduate from a private school in an English speaking country. > See how that works?

No.  What is your point? > There are a few possibilities. IAC. Plugged fuel filter. Too much crap > in the tank. > Among others.

Again, I commend you for your patience, and ability to understand what the OP was trying to communicate.  I choose, regularly, not to devote much energy trying to understand poorly written material.  Although retired now, I spent many years reading the essays of public school graduates - many of whom had all As and Bs in English yet could not conjugate, punctuate, or spell beyond a 4th grade level. I truly believe, and you may differ of course, that we do a disservice to students and others by rewarding them for shoddy work, by not pointing out their errors and thus giving them avenues of growth and improvement, and by pretending that all output is equally valued by society.

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